詹妮弗Yoffy00:06
欢迎来到完美结合。我Jennifer Yoffy Yoffy出版社的创始人兼出版商在亚特兰大,格鲁吉亚。188bet金宝搏登真人官网这是一个播客,我们和艺术家谈谈他们的旅程,他们是如何在哪里,什么对与错把他们一路走来,和它们的标题下。我超级兴奋,欢迎艺术家和出版商克丽丝今天坟墓的播客。

克丽丝总部设在伦敦和纽约。他收到了论坛购买从纽约州立大学视觉艺术学院在全球已经发表和展示。克里斯坟墓创造艺术品,用于处理社会问题,旨在用艺术来告诉人们关于文化问题。他还致力于提升人们的表示颜色的艺术经典,创造机会讨论种族、代表性和城市生活。克丽丝的坟墓项目最初是作为画廊空间小飞象,建立2011年,布鲁克林KGP扩展到出版,认识到书籍和印刷品有独特的能力使美术都可访问和可负担得起的。2020年,克里斯创建庞然大物出版印记庆祝,识别和抬起BIPOC艺术通过发布艺术家在历史上被拒绝的机会来获得更广泛的受众。欢迎来到播客,克丽丝坟墓。我非常感谢你今天这样做。我真的很兴奋。

克丽丝的坟墓01:45
谢谢你邀请我。

詹妮弗Yoffy01:47
是的,当然。显然我已经认识你一段时间,出版商,也作为一个摄影师,我一直在阅读很多关于你在准备这个面试。我知道你的工作是你在摄影、代表文化,你真正使用它作为一个平台来谈论社会问题和组的人,也许是被边缘化。但是,我在想如果你一直感兴趣的代表文化摄影——你已经拍摄了很长一段时间,或者是被东西更多的是一种发展和艺术家一样你成熟了吗?

克丽丝的坟墓02:28
嗯,我的意思是,这是一个好问题。文化是什么?我认为我们,是的,我不知道。我的意思是,美国的风景就是我已经拍摄了我的整个职业生涯。也许更多。这些日子,似乎更多的是政治,我想会导致它被更多的文化,因为人们真正关心的。但是,之前我觉得还是让美国的照片,只是可能不是直接或政治。是的,我认为我一直做一些文化仅仅因为照片,你知道,这是大街上。我不拍静物画在一个工作室,我拍摄外,通常,城市景观。你知道,就像,我拍摄的皇后,特别是西方皇后和开发和中产阶级化。 And everything else that came with that over the past 15 years. Yeah, about 17 to 18 years. And so that is one piece. I mean, I just keep a camera on me. So I'm just photographing everything all the time. That's pretty much how it goes.

詹妮弗Yoffy03:37
什么样的东西吸引您的眼球?

克丽丝的坟墓03:42
古怪或只是部分,我觉得我不能相信这个存在更好或更糟的是,它通常是更糟。喜欢,你发现你像空间,“哦,我的上帝,这个建筑是荒谬的。”It's a good question. I want to photograph post development, meaning like, I don't photograph things in development. I'm not like photographing a bunch of like decay or new landscapes or new architecture that doesn't exist yet. Like orange buildings are like kind of in construction buildings. I wait until the stuff is done usually to kind of see what the neighborhood has become. So then I photographed things like that. But not in progress. I'm kind of photographing things that I think either have just newly been made, or have existed for a long time with like a bunch of neglect. So yeah, so that's how I usually make the landscapes. Most recently, I was down in the South, photographing Confederate monuments and racism in the landscape. I mean, like buildings that were places where slaves were held or, you know, even a George Washington statue, I think is kind of racism in the landscape, but.... So, it varies. It's, um... I really just go on the streets trying to find something. And if I find something I get lucky enough, I get lucky. I mean, that's it. Like it's all about getting lucky. That was a more pointed trip because I had goals in mind, like we were in the car and I was like, we have a map. We're gonna hit everything on this map in the day and hopefully find some more surprises in between, which we always did every day. Because there's so much racism in the landscape, and especially in Georgia. I mean, I was down in Georgia for a while and it was like, you can drive two hours without stopping 15 to 16 times. I mean, our two hour drive took us nine to ten hours, because there was so much to photograph.

詹妮弗Yoffy05:49
是的,我是想问你你谈论国家地理作业你做了吗?这似乎是一个完美的适合你所希望的方式你的工作在这个世界。你能多谈谈经验,什么对你来说就像艺术和个人吗?

克丽丝的坟墓06:09
是的,我通常不做那样的工作,我通常为自己拍摄。当我得到幸运,与《国家地理》这样的公司合作,做一些照片所以特定的东西,你知道,这是一种乐趣。你知道,这是COVID的中间。我们两个的公路之旅,我和一个家伙叫Yoav树林里做了一个公路旅行七天通过弗吉尼亚州里士满和夏洛茨维尔,在夏季,当有很多抗议发生在街道,以及雕像被拆除。我们醒来,照片一座雕像,第二天早上8点,它将被拆除。我作物的一群人,我们去拍摄树桩,你知道的。我们很幸运,两次。然后我和我的朋友回到里士满马歇尔Scheuttle。我们有24-day-trip在南通过八个州。我们驱车3500英里,我认为超过3500英里,停止了很多,做了很多的照片,看到了很多种族歧视,很多,一些我们甚至没有照片,因为它就像时间去。 I mean, we could see that we were in neighborhoods that was like, there's too many people looking at us kind of strange. And we don't want to stick around to figure out what what's next in this. So, we're still alive, which is good. I mean that we didn't have like terrible encounters for the most part. And we had friends along the way, which made it much easier. I mean, Atlanta, a bunch of people in Atlanta that we saw like family and friends and Montgomery, Alabama is where my people, like my dad's side of the families from, so we stopped there Richmond's great. So, we had a good time with people in most of those places. And then we went up to like, Tennessee and West Virginia and Kentucky. And it was like, okay, well, it's a little different up here. New states for me, I'm just knocking off states also, I don't think I answered any of your questions. But...

詹妮弗Yoffy08:17
没关系。所以在艺术上,它听起来是如此多的机会和材料,就像你说的,你停止了15倍,应该是两个小时车程。这是主题的赏金。感觉对你个人来说,花那么多时间拍摄风景的种族歧视?

克丽丝的坟墓08:42
这是一个,很旅行。我的意思是,我不害怕。我的意思是,我觉得我和我信任的人。我们寻找彼此的方式,因此我感觉完全舒适。和奇怪的是在中间的客场之旅,COVID。我的意思是,这是在15个不同的房屋或16个不同的酒店或airbnb四个星期有点不安,但你知道,我们还活着。所以。所以我想这是好的。但是,我觉得很高兴。这次旅行很酷。 It was a lot of driving, a lot of stopping and a lot of photographing on the go. I mean, we had our schedule was pretty packed. Every day, we, you know, we would wake up, we'd start driving around nine or 10 o'clock in the morning, and we'd stop when it got dark. So and everything in between was stopping to make photographs. I mean, we ate in the car, because you know, you couldn't eat in a restaurant, anything that was always eating in the car and driving to the next location. And we saw, we saw more than I thought we're gonna see, I mean, we probably saw about.... I'm making a book right now for this stuff. And it's like, I have so much it's like 300 or so landmarks. And there was like, over 2000 of them that exists and I photographed about 250 to 300. So I'm not doing any more, unless somebody actually paid me to do more. But, that was quite a..., it was a lot. Every moment was like, where are we going next? There was no like downtime at all. I mean, sometimes at night, I mean, we get back to the, to the spot at 6pm or 7pm. And I would get on the computer, start working on the files from that day, editing down and sending them out. Because some of the articles were happening pretty fast. So, we're trying to figure that stuff out, stuff on the go. But yeah, it was a it was a fun experience. I'd love to do something like that, again, for a different, you know, in a different part of the country. I mean, I don't think driving through the South is, you know, I wish the South look like the West, unfortunately, it doesn't. And fortunately, the West doesn't have the same type of racism. But I'm, I'm sure that there's something to photograph in the West. And I think that'd be a lot of fun to kind of be able to travel around the West of America to do something, do something similar.

詹妮弗Yoffy11:05
我认为这是有趣的。实际上我不知道这对你,你,你和我有共同点,我们都是前画廊老板出版商。我也认为我们分享这渴望尝试用不同的方式来做事情和开发模型和项目比目前可能存在更有利于艺术家。对我而言,真的很难。我我一直很高兴能够安全地呆在艺术主张的一面,而不是做你做的,就是试图平衡促进自己的工作同时也促进其他艺术家的工作。,你是否觉得这是一个被艺术家和出版商之间的冲突?或者你觉得另一个好处?

克丽丝的坟墓54所以
嗯,他们必须互相受益。我认为,这不是可选的。至少对我来说。我的意思是,如果我如果我失去的一件事,我觉得我是,你知道,对自己不公平。所以,我认为我有足够的时间做。我将继续努力做一个出版商和艺术家。我认为有一个有很多人跟我作为一个艺术家,可能不知道我是一个出版商,反之亦然。不,不是也许亦然。我认为大多数人都跟着我,作为一个出版商可能知道我是一个艺术家,因为我做我自己的,我自己。所以在某种程度上,他们可能发现我一直是一个摄影师。 I don't know if they know that I'm still currently a photographer. But yeah, so that's the deal. They feed off each other for sure. I mean, being involved with photographers opens up my mind to new ways of thinking about making work and experiencing photography. So, yeah, both really helps my career, I would say do you think it helps your career to be? I mean, I mean, I don't know, are you a photographer as well? You are a bit or no?

詹妮弗Yoffy13:05
未出柜的。我的意思是,我的照片,但是我没有,想把它们弄出来。这对我来说是一种个人实践。我更感兴趣的工作与其他艺术家和帮助他们得到他们的工作。但我明白你说的关于我看到的更多的工作和联系。实际上,你知道,这是一件事只看图片在线或在投资组合中,另一个与他们合作。和真正深入了解他们想说什么,以及如何最好的编辑和序列。它真的创造性地推我,我确定它适合你。你也觉得这是帮助你建立更多的社区在你的艺术吗?

克丽丝的坟墓夏令时间
是的,当然。之前我有画廊,我在布鲁克林美术馆从2009年到2011年。,在此之前,我组织组织显示了像在切尔西一年。然后在那之前我所做的这一切在网络上喜欢2006我有我自己的喜欢,画廊网站,20艺术家的人,你知道,我们只是,你知道,我们是互相帮助和工作保持活跃。所以这是一个很好的时刻。我们只是将进入物理画廊展览,并建立一个邮件列表导致一个画廊,那些早期的人群和那些相同的显示和支持我们。我的意思是,这是所有在大约四或五年作为开始,做了一系列的艺术博览会,你知道,大的出版物。所以,就像一开始我的意思是,我是跑步,画廊和我就像25我想我开始是的,我很年轻。但是,是的,我认为这种联系仍然存在。我的意思是,所有这些,大多数人仍然是我的朋友。 I mean, I was showing a lot of people that went to my school, which is Purchase College here in New York. And, you know, I would say at least 25 to 50% of the people I work with, are still from Purchase College. I mean, like, people that went to school way after me that I've just been connected to that I still work with, because they're great artists. And it's a great program. So I try to support as much as possible, like my alma mater, as well. So it's a it's a mix of things. But like, these artists are just awesome. And I, the people that I publish, I wish you know, I'm very jealous. They make really great work. And I wish that I had some of that in me. So to publish, it is like...an awesome.... It just, it's really cool to be able to publish the work that, you know, I wish I'd made myself.

詹妮弗Yoffy等等
是的,我有同样的感觉,100%。我读在一次采访中,这是随机的,但艺术家本系列工作可能是一个损害。

克丽丝的坟墓十六11
我认为艺术家感觉他们必须工作。不,我没有说。不是艺术家,摄影师,我认为摄影师觉得他们必须串联工作有点多。我不认为这是事实,

詹妮弗Yoffy十六23
这是限制吗?

克丽丝的坟墓16:25
这只意味着你你考虑多个照片符合,这样虚构的投资组合,你知道,,,你要喜欢,哦,我想15好照片,或者我想要一个组合20照片,当你可以有四个,八个,你知道,如何做一个最好的和在一个乏味的人工作。我的意思是,我们充当摄影师,画家或其他不像抽屉和画家,像一个季度做一幅画。他们可以把它在墙上。可以这样。这并不需要14个克里詹姆斯马歇尔画,如果你看一个,你可能适合那一年,对吧?我的意思是,这就是我对它的感觉。我认为这世界上有太多的摄影,喜欢,很显然,因为Facebook和Instagram和一切。我的意思是,不要太多。我认为这是……,我认为这是不错的,有这么多的因为它稀释平庸或,平庸就变成这样了池。 And hopefully the good photographers can stand above that, that kind of ocean, I should say, of other workers that are just making photographs for photo sake, and not for any kind of cultural progression.

詹妮弗Yoffy17:44
所以你觉得摄影媒介作为一个整体,教,你需要15到20好的图像串系列是没有必要的。这是限制?

克丽丝的坟墓17:56
我不,我不认为这是必须的。我的意思是,如果你想让一本书,那么是的,你想要更多的。但是我做了一个书有八个照片。所以我真的不能说话。但....

詹妮弗Yoffy18:07
你真的,你自己的工作吗?

克丽丝的坟墓18:10
是的,我做了一个系列命名黯淡的现实,就像一个超大的书,打开一个20到24英寸的传播,主要约束。很便宜,但是有八个照片,八个照片,黑人被警察杀害。我觉得这就足够了。我没有更多照片的位置。我只是做了八个。你知道,它很简单。你知道,这是导致博物馆收购自己的书籍,这是一个第二版。我的意思是,低低位运行,但仍有第二版。你知道,这是在人们的家园和集合。所以,是的,我的意思是,我认为这张照片,我的意思是,你看,如果你有一个好的工作,然后使用一个伟大的工作,直到你知道,把它,直到你不能再推了。 I mean, if you think it's good, and other people think it's good try to make some money off it. I mean, waiting around for anyone else for you to make money in art is like so 2005. At this point, if you don't try to make your money yourself, you're just you're wasting time.

詹妮弗Yoffy19:11
同意了。告诉我关于庞然大物版本以及如何决定扩大范围。KGP只是摄影书籍和庞然大物——你已经扩大到其它媒介。

克丽丝的坟墓19:27
是的,克里斯坟墓项目是摄影人的背景。庞然大物版本是一个致力于有色人种在所有艺术学科,甚至像诗人和作家,最终。我们正在与很多的摄影师,因为我知道,但我们也混合,伟大的作家。而且,你知道,我们有一个新书Rajni佩雷拉基于多伦多斯里兰卡的艺术家是一个画家,一个抽屉,各种各样的多媒体作品。她是涂料。所以你知道的,我们打开,打开它不仅仅是摄影,我认为这是非常重要的,非常重要的。

詹妮弗Yoffy20:09
非常令人兴奋的。你有多少书计划通过每一年你想发布吗?你以前有一个计划吗?你有一个目标你想做多少本书?

克丽丝的坟墓20:19
我从未有一个计划,但我绝对应该。因为,你知道,就像两年前,我做了28个书。2019年,28日书,去年我18岁。就像,我认为这是更少。我的意思是,它似乎更少,但今年,我想保持低于10。我认为在3月,我们有两个新的庞然大物书出来,尼迪亚bla和亚历克斯·克里斯托弗·威廉姆斯,亚特兰大的艺术家。

詹妮弗Yoffy20:47
亚特兰大。是啊!

克丽丝的坟墓20:49
但是,那些在下个月出来,或本月晚些时候,当我们得到新闻。我们艾萨克,digg和爱德华·希勒尔有一本书,叫做电子景观和底特律的肖像画和风景画电子音乐,电子音乐开始。这是很好。我的意思是,它太棒了。我们刚刚两天前高级副本。所以它是很好,巨大的。我的意思是,这就像11到14英寸,差不多。就像真的,非常大,非常大。我不明白,那将是多大,直到我把它在我的手中。就像,哇,开放的传播,像,你知道,你可以有一个12到15英寸的照片,和它躺平。 So it's really quite beautiful. So that's coming out next month. We have a book by Marshall Scheuttle, which is called Morningstar. And it's a bunch of pictures from kind of Nevada, Las Vegas area. Awesome. I mean, great photographer. All these people are such great photographers, so it's kind of easy to make. Make the shit happen. So. So those one, two, three, four, coming out this year. Rajni's book is actually this year that came out January 1. So that was our brand new book. So we have five already.

詹妮弗Yoffy22:06
你必须减速是你所说的。

克丽丝的坟墓22:09
是的,这似乎是不可能发生的。但是,我做不到我去年所做的那样。18去年很多。今年,5 +我有另一个我做这组名为丢失,这是基于位置的书。今年,我想要做四个或六个。但是,它看起来像我要做另一个八。但是,它也看起来像我要推,直到1月1日,2022年。保持了今年的日历。今年晚些时候,我有两个非常棒的摄影师一起工作,我以前曾与书籍,但这就像他们的第二本书我,这将是可怕的和秘密。我也工作在我自己的书的夏天,这可能是一个或两个或三本书结合成一种奇怪的书套箱情况。我试图找出如何使一盒,两本书。 But, the books can also slide out and it can be sold separately if you didn't want to buy this kind of connected slipcase box thing. So designing that with someone now, dude named Caleb, who works at Luminosity Lab.

詹妮弗Yoffy23:12
是的,我们一起乔纳森·布劳斯汀项目工作。没错,最近。是的。他得到这些涂料覆盖,我的意思是,这样的伟大的工作,他为你所做的。太好了。他太棒了。所以你有很积极的职业生涯到目前为止。

克丽丝的坟墓23:30
活跃,像一个篮球运动员。

詹妮弗Yoffy23:34
你有太多的喧嚣,我的意思是,它是我最喜欢的事情之一。所以它只是,它真是太棒了。和超级鼓舞人心的观看。

克丽丝的坟墓23:47
好,谢谢你。是的,我不是在这个缓慢。我尽快做大量的工作。

詹妮弗Yoffy23:53
你认为你最大的错把?职业生涯智慧,因为你开始了吗?

克丽丝的坟墓放送
错误的把?我不知道,我真的不回头,在向往,等等。我认为这就像,我不悲伤的过去。我很高兴我有它。和我有那么多的机会,你知道的,有些是好的,有些是坏的。但它们都混合到我能够做我想做的事。我的意思是,我完全自由职业者。我希望我能保持这种方式。我的妻子让我是自由职业者,是伟大的。她她对我们双方都既医学,也是伟大的。 So I've been able to figure out a life that that doesn't make me stressed at all about finding money or working. So I don't think I'd take, I can't take anything back. But, I don't know I feel like I've been working with so many artists over the course of time I think that maybe there's been two or three artists that I've said something to or did something wrong. Not like personally, like not like, I don't think I slighted them or like, I wasn't, I didn't do anything illegal to these artists, you know, it was just more like, I probably said the wrong words or thought that we were too familiar when we weren't or like stuff like that, which, which kind of gets to me sometimes, but um, besides just like artists relations and wanting to have perfect artists relations all the time, you know, I've been okay.

詹妮弗Yoffy25:26
这听起来像你感恩的事情发生的这一切好的和坏的。,尽管有一些事情在当下似乎是一个负数,你从错误中学习,然后设计现在在这样一个伟大的地方,它的所有工作。最后。

克丽丝的坟墓25:43
我认为-我的意思是,底片,我想那么糟糕把消极转化为积极。是的,我记得,出租在切尔西画廊空间。画廊是像2000美元两个或三个星期,和我一起会把艺术家钱,但这远远不够。我喜欢买酒的机会和食物,比如一些食物的机会。和我们有这些巨大的派对,我的意思是,会有三个或四个或500人试图进入一个画廊空间,不适应。所以我们,走廊两旁人电梯到……,这是包装。在街上的人想要进入中国市场,像聚会。这真的很酷。但我的意思是,在后台,我可能失去5到1000美元,显示,很快变成了至少10大的债务。债务,你知道,我工作多年,年复一年,五年多试图摆脱债务,因为我12或15美元一个小时这么长时间。 So those things. Yeah, I mean, maybe I shouldn't have done those things. But also it led to me still having a lot of those friends.

詹妮弗Yoffy26:55
是的,构建社区,你前面谈到。

克丽丝的坟墓26:58
是的。就像如果我没做这些空缺,那么我就不会遇见了卑微的艺术基金会的人因为我见到他们就搬到纽约。和我们一起工作在过去的几年里,你知道,这是值得的。你知道,我,我不能想象没有他们。和我见过像一群艺术家,晚些时候我给画廊像萨拉·马歇,伟大的工人,和社区价值超过债务。

詹妮弗Yoffy31
是的,这是一个伟大的故事。谢谢你的分享。你认为是最好的决定了吗?你这样认为吗?

克丽丝的坟墓27:41
最好的决定,最好的决定是我结婚的妻子。我的意思是,那是,目前只是因为她是我最好的决定,她喜欢,她让我去。我的意思是,她是美国公民自由联盟政策主管,她说,去年帮助近3000人走出监狱在新泽西。我的意思是,这样不仅仅是我认为我能够帮的人一生。这是她的一个工作。

詹妮弗Yoffy28:10
哇,哇。

克丽丝的坟墓28:12
她让我要真实的,她让我很诚实。我欣赏她的喧嚣,这让我喧嚣。是的,我的妻子是最好的事情曾经发生在我身上。职业生涯智慧,你知道,这国家地理的东西可能会变成一个发生在我身上最好的事情只是因为纯粹基于的人看到它。我的意思是,我必须想象数以百万计的人已经看到至少一个照片是上个月的封面上的问题。

詹妮弗Yoffy28:40
这是很好。你知道,我告诉你,我是在里士满长大的。这雕像是高度成长的一部分。我的母亲在纪念碑大道长大。我的祖父在纪念碑大道长大。它是……

克丽丝的坟墓29:01
…这是你的历史。

詹妮弗Yoffy29:02
嗯是的,不管是好是坏……

克丽丝的坟墓29:06
是的,没错。里士满是那么小,你不能看不见东西,正确的。

詹妮弗Yoffy29:10
你无法不看到它。

克丽丝的坟墓29:12
不可能。

詹妮弗Yoffy29:14
是的,我甚至不能开始计数的次数我已经通过它,爬上它作为一个孩子,你知道,李纪念碑?是的,这是疯狂的。

克丽丝的坟墓29:26
它仍然存在,也疯了。所以我们希望这些事情能消失。他们永远不会懂的。这些植物是纯粹,纯粹的石头,绝对可以用于一些公共住房,我想。但他们不会因为我们的世界是如何工作的。是的,所以使用国家地理很酷,真的很棒。他们打开新的机遇。像对我开放,推销东西,像,看到接下来是什么。但是,仍然很新。我的意思是,我似乎老了,因为我那些照片去年,和几个月似乎几年这些天像冠状病毒,和家里所有的时间。 So we'll see what's next. I would love to travel. But it's Corona time. I don't know. I mean, I see a bunch of friends getting on planes and stuff like that. But I don't know if I'm ready for that.

詹妮弗Yoffy30:18
嗯嗯。我知道,我有同样的感觉。所以我们谈论你,你知道的,喧嚣的黑桃,超级令人钦佩和鼓舞人心的。你还想要完成,你还没有吗?

克丽丝的坟墓30:34
我…完成,嗯?再次,我认为我不思考的东西。我不考虑,我没有什么或我所做的一切。我只是…,我只是想继续前进。我的意思是,所有的这些问题,有效的,但是很多人希望某些奖项。所以,我仍然会申请一些东西,但它不是,我并不在乎。我不太在意别人对我的工作的看法,或如果他们喜欢,愿意给我一个奖。有时候如果有很多钱,那听起来真的很好。 But, it works both ways. I mean, like, nothing's free. I mean, like getting a grant is not free money, you still have to produce something or, you know, make prints or anything and really think about the stuff. So...

詹妮弗Yoffy31:33
正确的。这不是一个奖,这是一个任务。

克丽丝的坟墓31:35
每次,是的。所以,你知道,即使是实习不是一个奖。就像你,你去那里工作,你希望出来实习的一些思想引导你未来和希望,所有帮助你的事业。在我的例子中,它肯定有。我的意思是,我只申请每年一两件事情,我已经能够得到一些。像过去两年…,两年?该死的,就像时间是疯狂的。但是是的,我申请了光之工作居住,你知道,我是第一次申请我,对此我很高兴。这是很酷的。像第二年,去年,我做了数据中心摄影伍德斯托克居住权,你知道,我从来没有,我不认为我申请,之前和我。 So that was, that was awesome. And this year, I applied for something or last year I applied for something called the Aftermath Project, which is more of a grant than a residency. And I got that. So, I've been super lucky to get this stuff.

詹妮弗Yoffy32:07
和超级天才;有帮助。

克丽丝的坟墓32:36
是的,我的意思是,有很多的人才,有很多的人才,我认为我适合的摄影世界,你知道,大多数人不适应。我照片很难看到的风景。我希望在一分之一,不是指着我的观点。我不认为我做的事情。我认为这将是你很难看我的风景和知道我的观点是什么照片,我试着保持清洁。这样你就可以有自己的情感…

詹妮弗Yoffy33:11
好的,所以你不喜欢你想推你的视角,你只是呈现给观众的反应?

克丽丝的坟墓仁慈
唯一的方法,我想把我的观点是我做出的选择让我拍摄。我认为这是唯一。但是,你还是需要想象…如果我只是拍摄这些喜欢南方历史遗迹的时候,你会希望或认为我不喜欢南部邦联照片但是你不知道。这只是一张照片。喜欢,我不认为它美化了的场景,我拍摄。也许对有些人来说,也许它不给别人。我认为这只是你需要考虑你的想法。这就是你做决定。但是照片是照片,没有像,使事情看起来像英雄或喜欢它只是…这是一个场景。 Very German, very straight on. Like you take it as you will it's more about history than my emotions.

詹妮弗Yoffy34:24
KGP,我的画廊是詹妮弗·施瓦兹画廊JSG -但你KGP。太rhymey,这对我来说太rhymey直接得到它。

克丽丝的坟墓34:40
再说一次。J S G

詹妮弗Yoffy34:42
J S G,珍妮弗·施瓦兹画廊

克丽丝的坟墓34:45
问题

詹妮弗Yoffy34:45
但是你K……G P(笑)